« CONDOMISE, the verb* | Main | Holidays: Ups and Downs »

Comments

Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.

Ronni Bennett

I appreciate your and M Sinclair's noting that I've been a force for bringing attention to elders, but it's been mostly by other elders and not younger generations. I haven't made any progress in defeating our invisibility in the culture at large however much I bitch about it on TGB.

On the other hand, when I started my blog, the point was not to dent the culture, but to create a forum for discussion of what getting old is really like. I didn't have any thought then about the turns and branching out it's taken in the following three years.

I think you make an important point quoting Friedan about paid work. As she was discussing, that phenomenon applies to unemployed people of any age.

In my mid-thirties, I took some time off for six or eight months to mostly work on my country house and its gardens. It was shocking then how less interested people became in me and equally shocking that when I returned to work, I returned to the world in the eyes of others - even some of the same ones who ignored me when I was (by choice) unemployed.

donna

I'm sort of the other way. I stop noticing most other people when I'm not working, and couldn't care less if they notice me or not. ;^)

One thing that is fun is to take extra time to notice the other invisible people in society - service people, grocery clerks, waiters, older people, kids, moms with kids, etc - and watch how their eyes light up when you take the time for them.

As to those who only choose to notice the working - too bad for them. There's a lot more to the world out there than a workplace.

Alison

Hi Naomi. Such an interesting parallel you point out between retiring and staying home with the wee ones. Yes, quite. I know exactly what you mean. I have also noticed that mothers are often reluctant to join mother groups because then they'd have to talk to mothers... ? Very odd to see prejudice from within.
And just the other day, a colleague of Tim's (a woman) started brainstorming (quite unsolicited I might add) what I could do again when Josh goes to pre-school. Ummm. No thanks. There are many more things out there than the workplace... Composting in Manhattan, eh?

MotherPie

Naomi... our society sets as goals individualism and consumerism, both which create isolation and lonliness. Non-monetary constributors -- old, young, either sex -- experience isolation. STudies show that people now say they have fewer intimate friends.

The popularity of blogs as a (virtual) link to a community is probably very closely related to the social isolation that Robert Putnam wrote about in Bowling Alone. I think it is.

Virginia DeBolt

The Annenberg Center just released a study about online communities as sources for interaction and activism. The press release summarizes the main points at http://annenberg.usc.edu/AboutUs/PublicAffairs/AbergNews/061129Center.aspx. It certainly reflects the trend we all see happening in elderblogging. Stories like your about online friends meeting in real life are part of the trend. I feel very connected to the elderbloggers I read and would be delighted to meet some in real life.

Virginia DeBolt

Oops, the long link in my previous post got truncated. Start here http://annenberg.usc.edu/ and look for the link to USC Annenberg Internet Study.

The comments to this entry are closed.